archaeologist Wrote: again you confuse many ideals with the reality. you falsely accuse the whole christian faith based upon what? a few people's example while ignoring those who sacrifice for their neighbors? you also confuse the term 'violence' with 'punishment' and is an abused word in the manner it is often used.using corporal punishment is not violence or you would have to condemn all the states, who use secular ways, for their mistreatment of prisoners, their use of the death penalty and other 'violent' methods of punishment, thus you are not condemning christians or christianity but all of mankind.since janism is a false religion, their definitions do not matter and are as subjective as anyone else's and are no greater than anyone else's save for the Bible's which is above all.your idea of 'insignificant' doesn't mean a whole lot. you are not God and your view of the level of the offense is moot. you are more sinful than those being stoned to death so you cannot talk. who are you to judge and condemn what God ha sinstituted.your use of the word 'comical' demonstrates your immaturity, and shows you have no idea what 'morality' means and confuses non-violence with it. one can be non-violent and lie which means non-violence does not bring morality nor defines it."Do not injure, abuse, oppress, enslave, insult, torment, torture, or kill any creature or living being."where do you think Janism got those words?in doing quick research, which you and zach refuse to do, one finds a 'religion' that begins withthe fanciful and that their religious writings really aren't divine nor infallible and current viewpoints can be used which means they do not have the truth at all and are very flexible and subjective in their beliefs.you really do not think when you post. you would rather insult millions of people then take offense when someone supposedly insults you here. thatis hypocritical and a double standard. you and that zach have a lot to learn as neither of you really know anything.you really do not grasp anything about the Bible do you/ those words are there if you took time to look. one such place is in the 10 commandments, written long before janism got started. another such place is in the Beatitudes. and throughout the pauline and petrine epistles.you confuse free choice with actual teaching of christianity. just because someone calls themselves a christian doesn't mean they are. if they continue to practice sin, then they do not walk with God (read the book of 1 John)if you look at Jesus and his life, He used violence only once, when He threw the moneychangers out of the temple. are you saying HE was NOT moral? He also taught--do unto others as ye would have them do unto you. kind of beats janism at the morality issue.keep in mind there is no way to claim that the janism beliefs were written before Christ and the disicples wrote. there is no history of thsoe documents and their beliefs are flexible thus it stands to reason that the janists copied Christ's words when the disciple Thomas was in their country preaching.
archaeologist Wrote: again you confuse many ideals with the reality. you falsely accuse the whole christian faith based upon what? a few people's example while ignoring those who sacrifice for their neighbors? you also confuse the term 'violence' with 'punishment' and is an abused word in the manner it is often used. using corporal punishment is not violence or you would have to condemn all the states, who use secular ways, for their mistreatment of prisoners, their use of the death penalty and other 'violent' methods of punishment, thus you are not condemning christians or christianity but all of mankind.
archaeologist Wrote: one can be non-violent and lie which means non-violence does not bring morality nor defines it.
archaeologist Wrote: since janism is a false religion, their definitions do not matter and are as subjective as anyone else's and are no greater than anyone else's save for the Bible's which is above all. your idea of 'insignificant' doesn't mean a whole lot. you are not God and your view of the level of the offense is moot. you are more sinful than those being stoned to death so you cannot talk. who are you to judge and condemn what God ha sinstituted.
archaeologist Wrote: "Do not injure, abuse, oppress, enslave, insult, torment, torture, or kill any creature or living being." where do you think Janism got those words? in doing quick research, which you and zach refuse to do, one finds a 'religion' that begins withthe fanciful and that their religious writings really aren't divine nor infallible and current viewpoints can be used which means they do not have the truth at all and are very flexible and subjective in their beliefs. you really do not think when you post. you would rather insult millions of people then take offense when someone supposedly insults you here. thatis hypocritical and a double standard. you and that zach have a lot to learn as neither of you really know anything. you really do not grasp anything about the Bible do you/ those words are there if you took time to look. one such place is in the 10 commandments, written long before janism got started. another such place is in the Beatitudes. and throughout the pauline and petrine epistles.
archaeologist Wrote: you confuse free choice with actual teaching of christianity. just because someone calls themselves a christian doesn't mean they are. if they continue to practice sin, then they do not walk with God (read the book of 1 John) if you look at Jesus and his life, He used violence only once, when He threw the moneychangers out of the temple. are you saying HE was NOT moral? He also taught--do unto others as ye would have them do unto you. kind of beats janism at the morality issue.
archaeologist Wrote: keep in mind there is no way to claim that the janism beliefs were written before Christ and the disicples wrote. there is no history of thsoe documents and their beliefs are flexible thus it stands to reason that the janists copied Christ's words when the disciple Thomas was in their country preaching.