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Failure of Ministry

 
2010-09-11 06:38 PM
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PASHA
Seattle, WA
Posts: 96
Failure of Ministry

This applies in spades right across the spectrum of all religions, as once demonstrated
by the Madhi's of olde to the Ayatolla Ruhollah Khomeini recently, and among us
Christians, the likes of J.Jones, D.Koresh, O.Roberts, J.Falwell, J.Baker, J.Swaggard
and our current pimpernel, the pastor Terry Jones.

What is it that these all have in common? In the name of GOD from their own vain
bitter petty sheete hearts they all spewed what blind religious sods spew which
usually turns their flock and others into fodder for slaughter.
Saddam, Hilter, the dicks of Serbia and Argentina to list a few, which one could
also include America in places like Korea and the Nam.

Terry has now had his fifteen minutes of shame-infamy, how will he turn this blemish
U-TUBE VIRAL into LORD Lord, behold all that I have done for your glory and
for your Kingdom and Name?

It appears that just about anyone can edit and write their own twisted take of a holy
BOOK into a STUDY JOKE and so too the amount of cloned jokers-fools that
get churned through the bowels of the seminaries and come out certifiable to
dole out their brand of INSANE NONSENSE, for financial-fames consideration.
Be it Imams inciting their followers to commit evil in the name of GOD, or a Christian
minister inciting the Muslims by threatening to sheet on their drole truth, their copy
of the BIBLE(sic-greek for book) called the QURAN.
They all have won nothing for the KINGDOMS SAKE.

Maybe folks like Ray (from my home site),ought set up schools where folks are 
made to pass a real test on what actually is written in the BIBLE or BOOK of their faith 
rather than as this T.JONES droll from Florida, whose only truth is what some other biased
asphole has whispered in his cockle like ear. Such morons never come closer
to the truth than holding it in their greasy little filthy mitts.

So many grease stains making GOD and GOD's Truth look like tripe-sheet
that they like caged simians can sling about, when they just shat it out.
How many of these little beasts have you seen prance about holding their copy
so close to their hearts, while claiming read my lips, or in the name of GOD we
must eliminate WMDs, maybe they would be better served if they just SHUT
THE HECK UP and put their noses between the covers and started READING,
FASTING and MEDITATING what's being offered therein to them.

To all you programmed theologians, you need to collectively pull your heads out
the arses of the likes of Pete and Paulie and whomever you are now looking to,
to mentor you.
And if you are truly of the CHRISTIAN FAMILY then come to understand the
"101" lesson of JESUS truth and what He actually stood for and stop sacrificing
the dollops you have managed to memorize and the dopes you have mesmerized 
because of a camera and fifteen minutes of fame.
 
     LOVE THY NEIGHBOR, LOVE THY ENEMY
     DO GOOD TO THEM WHO MISTREAT YOU.
Ray can surely tell you where this is found, go ask around and maybe by him you'll find
Too many wannbe Christians have failed this AXIOM of CHRISTIAN FOUNDATIONAL
TRUTH,.This is what sets Christians apart from all the other upstarts.
That is what ACTUALLY MAKES IT the very hardest religion to be HONEST IN/OF.

The second is very like the first- JOHN 15- go read what is written there
and it is verse 20 which it seems Terry flunked, as so many of todays INTOLERANT
RELIGIOUSLY SKEWED CHRISTIAN MINISTERS also have.
Maybe it wasn't part of their curriculum, and that marks their tutors being the even greater
losers.
   20Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.
              If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.
             If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.
Did the Jews persecute Jesus because He was out burning the Torah?
  So where did this son of a snake get that idea? Since when does two wrongs equal a right?
So why is it that wannbe christian is desiring to burn another believers holy books?
Who the blink does he think he is to demand anything of anyone in the great land of the FREED?

Did Jesus proclaim holy jihad in the name of His GOD-ABBA?
So why are so many churched idiots so readily given to casting stones on anyone who dares
to withstand your wilful idiocy, your bitter biter attitudes not to adore?

Did Jesus command or even demand Christians to prosecute or persecute anyone who with
your skew not agreeing? Isn't the legacy of the CATHOLIC CHURCH and whatabout the
Protestant splinters who today also now walk in that catholic decay?
Did Jesus institutionalize nationalistic zeal, following of soiled arse-oles who come and
pose before you in their robes of officatum and in their insanity use Jesus name to
sanction their version of INSANE MURDEROUS AGENDA or MONEY GRUBBING?
Don't they dishonor His name and cause disorder that they might be seen and worshiped
 for what they have contrived? Consider the lessons of TOJO, MUSSOLINI, Helter skelter Hitler,
in how they riled folks to hatred in the name of their true dream,GREED.

O you poor shorn and fornicated sheep, your MINISTERS have dragged you down deep.
Your ministers  have done you a greater disservice than any UNBELIEVER-OUTSIDER
could ever do to you.

There are more extremists living in close proximity of nuclear stockpiles in AMERICA
than anywhere else on earth. You are whom the world should fear and tear down
for you have begun to reraise the Swastika symbol now straitened into stars and stripes. 
And likewise now goosestepped in your blitz surges with your patriotic selfish zeal for your 
mistresses, of the GUN and the lurid love of  MONEY. 
You are headed for another version of DIE KRYSTAL NACHTwhere only those who think 
as you demand of them to.
ARREST SUCH HATE MONGERS who never seem to see the greater harm such curs can incur.
WHAT the  DIFFERENT from the KHYMER ROUGE, the BROWNSHIRTS and SS who also hyped 
theirs as being only ALL TRUTH and the Republican party who sanctioned TWO INVASIONS.
O you haven't run your own POGRAM yet but the heading you are one this can't be far off,
as this nation keeps slipping further and further into debt.
Haven't the ministers of this nation figured out what killed Communism in the former Soviet
Union? Errant Deficit spending on false perceptions.
Fire those ministers, hold them accountable for their fiscal messes.
How can you hype the land you love as BEING THE LAND OF THE FREE when you all
seem under so much duress?
And fruy those ministers who in your faith have not learned the lesson of love as their
ICONIC leaders demonstrated.

YOU ARE WHAT YOU CONSUME. Question, what's consuming you?
   LOVE or HATE, there is no GREY ZONE between these two, you are either
a lover or a hater, so CHOOSE.

pax
2010-09-18 06:02 PM

archaeologist
Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 79
i see why no one responds to pasha's posts. they make no sense whatsoever. but to address the title of this thread:

it depends upon how you measure success and failure for one may be a 'failure' in the eyes of a human but in God's eyes He is still a success simply because they obeyed. I cite the lost lives of the 5 missionaries to an inhospitable tribe in south america, jim elliot was one of the ones killed as soon as they got out of their plane.

to the world their actions were a failure and a waste but to God, they were but a seed placed into the ground taking root which led to later successes.
2010-09-24 04:38 PM
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PASHA
Seattle, WA
Posts: 96
archaeologist Wrote: i see why no one responds to pasha's posts. they make no sense whatsoever. but to address the title of this thread:

it depends upon how you measure success and failure for one may be a 'failure' in the eyes of a human but in God's eyes He is still a success simply because they obeyed. I cite the lost lives of the 5 missionaries to an inhospitable tribe in south america, jim elliot was one of the ones killed as soon as they got out of their plane.

to the world their actions were a failure and a waste but to God, they were but a seed placed into the ground taking root which led to later successes.

THEY HAVE EYES AND YET IT IS DENIED THEM TO SEE< they have ears and yet they hear
only Miss Wormwood, WHY does scripture record that connotation?

HOW was the death of Jim a success for GOD?
WHAT SUCCESS was realized by so many, other pressures driving the folks to mainstream
with BOOK THUMPERS and MURDERERS.
HOW were those folks blessed by the murder of JIMMY?
Wasn't GOD satisfied with the sacrifice of Jesus that HE also needed the life of Jim?
Why was JIMMY and COMPANY THERE, really do you know the truth?
Why does GOD need the many religious to go forth to strangers to impart TRUTH, when
they all have one basic flaw. They SKEW the TRUTH to reflect not GOD but their own
organizations.
The BAPTISTS recruit for WHOM? The Catholics recruit for WHOM
The Witnesses and Mormons recruit for whom?
And you can add all the other sects and religions into that same CONCLUSION
for none are recruiting for GOD, for GOD has no such need.
WHAT were the disciples ordained to do, can you as a believer recall their MANDATE?

So now tell me why JimElliot was met with angst and hate, or just an impulse that here
was another textured white guy from a long litany of white guys who have basically screwed this world
and truth into an uneviable knot.

pax
2010-09-26 03:57 PM

archaeologist
Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 79
if you posted like a sane adult i might respond differently but figure it out for yourself. death is not a failure in the cause of Christ.
2010-09-27 06:40 PM
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PASHA
Seattle, WA
Posts: 96

You have surely read the rebuke of Jesus
"'Many shall come claiming LORD Lord we did this
and we did that in your name". How did the rebuttle go?

So your claim that such died in the cause of Jesus is moot.
How do you know they died for Jesus? You don't and you can''t
for as scripture notes that all men are liars without exception.
What organization sent Jimmy there?
Tell me do you recruit for Jesus or does someone else have
to ordain you to the field of endeavor? How was Paul ordained?
Do todays religious have the same power or motive as those early christians?

Do the Mormons recruit for Jesus?
Do the Witness's recruit for Jesus?
Does the Pope or Mr Moon? How about them baptists and the many others?
Or is more likely they are selfishly recruiting for their own use?
Seems to me that they are all recruiting for their own selfish end, 
that chink that tinkles well in the collection plates.

Have you not read where Paul wanted to go and missionary in a
certain place and GOD told him no?
So how can you be sure that Jimmy your idol christian was sent there
to die and be turned into a martry by folks who think that is what makes
a martry?
   Do you even know what it means to be a MARTYR?

I read this report of a man who literally took the scriptures and climbed
into a tigers cage to SHARE THE GOSPEL as the words say to all CREATURES.
Do you know what happened to that zealous soul?
  He was mauled and eaten. So you tell me, did GOD make a bad tiger or
send that fool to convert that tiger?
Was he a martyr? If you say he was then we have a big gulf in the understanding
of what a martyr is. 
Maybe then the suicide nuts of Islam really are martyrs, and the blown up, just
collateral damage-nothingness.


pax

2010-09-28 03:44 AM

Zach F
Denton, TX
Posts: 119
PASHA,

I must say, I rarely know how to respond to any of your posts.

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