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The Book of Genesis

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2010-05-23 06:08 PM

ChristyR
Denton, TX
Posts: 197
When it comes to understanding creationism, how literal should we take The Bible?( In particular, the book of Genesis)
2010-05-25 06:58 PM

MrWonder
Medium City, TX
Posts: 226
I see no reason not to take it literally, if you mean that God literally created a man and a woman and put them in a paradise on the earth and they were without sin, sickness, disease, or death, and that satan inhabited a serpent and tempted them to sin through disobedience, etc.
2010-06-11 10:04 PM

Yvonne
Ingleside, TX
Posts: 1
Considering that Genesis was written much later than it happened by different authors and contradictions, I think it is impossible to take it literally.
2010-06-12 06:45 PM
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PASHA
Seattle, WA
Posts: 96
If you have ever read the stories of See DICK see JANE and see SPOT you'll
appreciate how the story is.
Can aspects of that BOOK within another BOOK be accepted as TRUTH?
SURE. Why not?
Even science agree's to the order of the creation if we are just focused on that
one small moment of that TEXT.
But that text doesn't end with just the CREATION aspect to wit the GENESIS
is most often attributed,
It deals with mankind before a great cataclysm took place that almost wiped us
into the annul of the other 99.99 percentile of total global extinction.

To the religious the opening 4 chapters are but touchstones to the WHY most
folks ask in their lives. Few are they who ask, if I were back when would I be
as culpable as those of the saga?
Well the moral of any epic is always incumbent on the hearer, isn't it?
WOULD WE BE EXCUSED TODAY?
WHY? or WHY NOT?

So as like a child takes the account of Santa Claus literally, that myth being 
bolstered by their own parents, why should not the devote take the CREATION
PORTION seriously-literally?
I would have a problem if the account read, and GOD made mankind, but found
that that kind couldn't survive on the early earth, and thus GOD stooped and heaped
a pile of dirt above the raging roiling formlessness and found that mankind still
couldn't survive and thus like MICROSOFT had to institute one more patch on the
next and the next until we come to the formula of the MATRIX STORY.

THE TEXT WAS MEANT FOR MANKIND TO WONDER AND THINK ABOUT IT"S
PLACE AMONGST THE STARS.
And give solace to mankind that there are far greater things beyond than those that
tick us off here.


pax
2010-08-18 12:30 PM

Wayne230
Portland, OR
Posts: 6
I believe we can have both an old earth and a 24 hour view off Genesis 1. the Gap Theory is one way. that says there were 2 creations and a gap between verse 1 and 2. I see the days as being days of God's decree. the days began with the words "and God said" and it end with "God saw that it was good." however long the time was in between only he knows. if you notice the Sabbath doesn't have the good part. but I was wondering why Christians think creation stared at 6am? having been to Israel I know their day starts at sunset not sunrise. the account has evening coming first,
2010-08-29 05:22 AM

archaeologist
Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 79

You can take Genesis as literally true. day age and theistic evolution theories are perversions  and not true. they are constructed to allow some people to continue in secular science and pursue untrue ideas while holding on to the false idea that they are still christian.

one cannot call God and Jesus a liar then say they have a good relationship with them.

2010-08-30 02:54 PM

Zach F
Denton, TX
Posts: 119

Evolution is true. The Bible has been interrupted many times in the past to try and "prove" science wrong and has failed. Earth is flat. The Earth revolves around the sun. Earth is only 4,000 years old.

If you really want to try and prove evolution is a lie, then go out and do some research and studies for yourself and stop quoting books that were written when people didn't know where the sun went at night.

2010-08-31 04:04 PM

archaeologist
Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 79
"Evolution is true"

this is just a lie. evolutionists can't even prove the process actually exists let alone responsible for all claimed changes attributed to that process. they can't even discover the original conditions that spawned the process or its first interception of life. they also cannot repeat those either.

evolution is non-scientific.

the bible does NOT teach the earth is flat, that the sun revolves around the earth nor that it isonly 4,000 years old. the previous poster just doesn't know what he is talking baout.
2010-09-01 04:15 PM

Zach F
Denton, TX
Posts: 119
The bible does describe all of that, maybe you should read it.

Evolution is scientific. And no, humans have not be able to create life, but we have be able to recreate condtions in which amino acids form which are the building blocks of life. And yes, there are plenty of things we do not know about how life formed and exactly what conditions cause speicies to evolve. But evolution is being observed, even on human beings.

The appendix is slowly growing smaller over each generation. The pinky toes of most humans is receding and slowly going away. Humans in cultures where climbing is an everyday activity for gathering food are born with a more developed pinky toes than other humans. A certain species of salamader in the Pacific Northwest become slighty more poisonous with each passing generation, while a species of snake becomes slighty more immune to the salamander's poison with each passing generation. These are just some of the many observations that evolution is based on.
2010-09-01 05:55 PM
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PASHA
Seattle, WA
Posts: 96
Evolution is true.

HOW DO YOU EVEN REMOTELY GO ABOUT PROVING THAT ZACH?
AT BEST IT IS A THEORY THAT HAS HIGH PROBABILITY, but that still don't make
it FACT.

When was the last time a monkey evolved into a man and went to work because it 
decided it's enviroment was nolonger teneble?
But we have lots of proof for the DEVOLUTION don't we in how manknid really hasn't changed
much about the first created start line.

pax
2010-09-02 12:03 PM

Zach F
Denton, TX
Posts: 119
I've stated many times how evolution has been studied and observed.

If a monkey changed into a human being and started working because it didn't like it's enviroment, that would be very, very strong evidence that evolution is not true at all. Evolution and adaptation takes thousands of years. It is not some concious decision that at animal makes on a whim. On top of that man did not evolve from monkey's. This comment shows how little you know about evolution.

Saying it's just a theory doesn't help your arguement at all, gravity is also a theory, not a 'fact.'

Also, man has changed A LOT since its first appearence on earth. Larger, more developed brains, less hair, and larger bodies to name a few.
2010-09-04 07:03 AM

archaeologist
Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 79
Zach F Wrote: I've stated many times how evolution has been studied and observed.

If a monkey changed into a human being and started working because it didn't like it's enviroment, that would be very, very strong evidence that evolution is not true at all. Evolution and adaptation takes thousands of years. It is not some concious decision that at animal makes on a whim. On top of that man did not evolve from monkey's. This comment shows how little you know about evolution.

Saying it's just a theory doesn't help your arguement at all, gravity is also a theory, not a 'fact.'

Also, man has changed A LOT since its first appearence on earth. Larger, more developed brains, less hair, and larger bodies to name a few.

evolution has never been studied nor observed. in fact the evolutionary scientist has never replicated an evolutionary change. they can't for they do not know the original conditions that were present for said claimed changes and the use artificial experiments to  say how things were done. artificial is not actual and they do not know the exact time frame for each change besides by the time a supposed change was to take place, they all would be dead.

the time frame proves that evolution is not true for no evolutionist can show the truth and that his claims are proved. your ad homimens just prove you know nothing.gravity is NOT a theory, it is a fact the problem lies with the relaity that secular scientists habe no clue how it originated, how it works, or how it is so widespread in the universe. they know nothing about it at all.

man has not changed you are beliving the lies they tell you becaus eyou do not want to accept the Biblical accounts.

evolution doesn't exist, and never has andno secular scientists can figure out the original conditions for life or for when the so-called process intervened in that life. in reality, they have nothing and are making it all up as they go because they do not want to be servants of God, they want to be god.
2010-09-04 05:23 PM

Zach F
Denton, TX
Posts: 119
archaeologist Wrote:

evolution has never been studied nor observed. in fact the evolutionary scientist has never replicated an evolutionary change. they can't for they do not know the original conditions that were present for said claimed changes and the use artificial experiments to  say how things were done. artificial is not actual and they do not know the exact time frame for each change besides by the time a supposed change was to take place, they all would be dead.

the time frame proves that evolution is not true for no evolutionist can show the truth and that his claims are proved. your ad homimens just prove you know nothing.gravity is NOT a theory, it is a fact the problem lies with the relaity that secular scientists habe no clue how it originated, how it works, or how it is so widespread in the universe. they know nothing about it at all.

man has not changed you are beliving the lies they tell you becaus eyou do not want to accept the Biblical accounts.

evolution doesn't exist, and never has andno secular scientists can figure out the original conditions for life or for when the so-called process intervened in that life. in reality, they have nothing and are making it all up as they go because they do not want to be servants of God, they want to be god.

I just listed how evolution has been observed and is still be observed. Archeological records show distinct changes in human evolution over the last 150,000 years. Biblical accounts are fine but it has been proven time and time again that it is not an accurate representation of the world or its origins. No, we cannot replicate evolution, any manmade changes in to an organism would not be evolution at all. We also cannot replicate gravity, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And yes, gravity is a theory just like evolution. Theories in science are as close to fact as any idea can get.

Scientists are not trying to be God, they are trying to understand the world around them. If we stuck to the Bible for all knowledge, the Earth would still be the center of the universe, the Earth would still be flat, and dinosaurs never existed. Undrstand that The Bible was written by the same type of people that scientists are today. They are trying to make sense and put order to the chaotic world around them.
2010-09-06 03:32 AM

archaeologist
Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 79
Zach F Wrote:

I just listed how evolution has been observed and is still be observed. Archeological records show distinct changes in human evolution over the last 150,000 years. Biblical accounts are fine but it has been proven time and time again that it is not an accurate representation of the world or its origins. No, we cannot replicate evolution, any manmade changes in to an organism would not be evolution at all. We also cannot replicate gravity, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And yes, gravity is a theory just like evolution. Theories in science are as close to fact as any idea can get.

Scientists are not trying to be God, they are trying to understand the world around them. If we stuck to the Bible for all knowledge, the Earth would still be the center of the universe, the Earth would still be flat, and dinosaurs never existed. Undrstand that The Bible was written by the same type of people that scientists are today. They are trying to make sense and put order to the chaotic world around them.

you didn't list anything and a list is NOT proof nor evidence of anything. you obviously do not know what you are tlking about because 'archaeology' does not deal with evolutionary  ideas or evidence. it deals with ancient socieities. i am sure you mean 'anthropology' but that is a field full of lies and misinformation.

archaeology shows no such thing and all ancient records record creation accounts not evolutionary. not one talks about a process or any evolutionary idea. you really have no clue.

wrong again about the bible, not 1 scientific or archaeological discovery has proven the Bible false, they all prove the Bible true.

in reading the rest of your post all i can say is you need to go learn something before trying to post. evolution has never existed, secular science has been designed to look for the wrong answers in the wrong places. if you rely on science then you are relying on lies.

there is no chaotic world around them and if they want to get to know the world better they need to read the Bible for all the answers are in it.

you obviously know nothing about the Bible either as it does not teach that the earth is flat or that the earth is the center of the universe. for all anyone knows it probably is for noone knows the boundaries to the universe and no one can say for certain. the bible does declare that dinosaurs existed, they just didn't exist 65,000,000 years ago. 

secular science is wrong and the topic of origins is out of its scope. the Bible was written by God, you have a lot of learnign an dundersdtanding to do and stop regurgitating high school textbook crap.
2010-09-06 03:33 AM

archaeologist
Seoul, South Korea
Posts: 79
p.s.  gravity is NOT a theory, it is a fact. evolution is NOT a fact for it has never existed.

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